Most of you know from my book The Last Chronicles of planet Earth that I do believe in the pre-trib rapture. I cite dozens of places in the Bible where we see the rapture verses. A few days ago I posted a radio show where the Watchman’scry.com had an interview with Benjamin Baruch who not only talked about what is going to happen with the sun, but he went on to say there is no rapture. I know based on the Word of God Mr. Baruch is dead wrong on this issue. In any case today I received a email from Alan Mason in which Alan points to many of the mistakes and important facts Baruch left out. I wanted you to see what Alan stated, because he is right on the mark! A few days ago I told you I would write the watchman’scry.com people and ask them to provide the names of the PHD’s that Benjamin said he spoke with. I have not received a answer from them yet.
Alan Manson manalan77@gmail.com
Hi Frank,
I listened to this message from your latest email because I am researching what is happening to the sun and the planets.
I was really interested to hear what Benjamin Baruch had to say about these things, but I was quite concerned that his and Nathan Leal’s beliefs are that the Rapture is a fallacy and that all Christians will have to endure the 7 years of Daniel’s70th Week until the words of Revelation 19 are fulfilled:
(Rev19:7-8) "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. {8} And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
Throughout the message,Baruch was condescending towards anyone who believed in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, and he emphasized the need for Christians to endure the disasters that would be coming upon the Earth in the near future. The basis for his claim was that God would protect them from harm. He used instances where God protected Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in Babylon and also the Israelites during God’s judgments upon Egypt to justify his claims, but it is a distortion to what scripture illustrates is the way God deals with His people.
From my understanding of the Bible, God does not judge the righteous with the wicked, and for this reason the true children of God will be removed from the Earth shortly after the Tribulation begins, based on the scripture verses below:
(Gen18:24-26) [Abraham, the Friend of God speaking to the Lord]
"Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? {25} That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee:Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? {26} And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes."
The lesson to be learned from both the days of Noah and the days of Lot(Luke 17:26-30) is that God does NOT force those who are His to endure the punishments He is inflicting upon those who hate Him. As Abraham said, “….that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right”– or do the righteous thing with His people here?
Scripture seems to indicate that all “Wise Virgins” will have to remain on the Earth AFTER The Antichrist has signed the peace covenant with Israel. It is this act that commences the 70th Week of Daniel’s prophecy to countdown. It is only this act that will enable his name and the number of his name to identify him as ‘666’ and the Midnight Cry to follow this (Matt25:6). Only God the Father will determine the period after this event, where He will send Jesus back to the Earth (in the Rapture) to take His saints back to heaven with Him before bringing hem back at the Second Coming:
(Rev19:11-14) "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. {12} His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. {13} And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. {14} And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."
We know from scripture that people who are “clothed in fine linen, white and clean”are the saints, as described in Rev 19:8. This passage of scripture alone indicates that the saints have to be in heaven before they can depart it with Christ to return to the Earth. Benjamin and Nathan carefully avoid references to these Bible facts.
I noticed that both Benjamin and Nathan were also careful not to mention anything about the parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins where it says:
(Matt25:10-12) "And while they [the Foolish Virgins] went to buy, the bridegroom[Jesus] came; and they [the Wise Virgins] that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. {11} Afterward [or after Jesus is back in Heaven with His ‘body’ of faithful servants –Matt 25:21] came also the other [Foolish]virgins [in prayer], saying, Lord, Lord, open [the door to Heaven] to us [also]. {12} But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not."
Benjamin’s beliefs reflect the modern church’s false doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved and the misguided belief that it is God’s responsibility to save them,otherwise He will be found to be an unfaithful liar (see Heb 13:5; John 10:29,etc.). Sadly, I see people like them as members of the group of Foolish Virgins who have believed Satan’s lies and realize too late that they are “foolish.” The only way for such people to get to heaven will be when they are beheaded for their faith in Jesus Christ:
(Rev20:4) "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them[the Foolish Virgins and other Tribulation converts] that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast,neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
I also noticed in his message certain claims to scripture that he distorted to justify his position here,such as:
“a small remnant will make it through [The Tribulation]…”
Scripture indicates that NO Christian makes it through the Tribulation. There will be sheep and goat nations, but Christians are not mentioned in this group at all, as stated below.
(Rev 6:15-17) "And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; {16} And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne,and from the wrath of the Lamb: {17} For the great day of his wrath is come;and who shall be able to stand?" There are no Jews or Christians mentioned here Frank.
· “Blessed are those who rest in the Lord through in the Great Tribulation…”
This statement refers from the time people (probably the Foolish Virgins) begin to die, because they will not take the mark of the beast. It refers to a special blessing to the martyrs of the tribulation (Rev. 6:9-11; Rev. 7:9-17;Rev. 14:13; Rev. 15:2-4; Rev. 20:4-6)
· “…we have overrated this issue of dying in the flesh. it’s not the big problem people make it out to be. Jesus said, Do not seek to save your life in this hour. If you are going to be worried about saving your life, then you are guaranteed to lose it…If you have given your life to Jesus, He will protect it. If you want to hang on to your little life and all that it entails, then you are trying to save it, and guess what, your gonna lose your life in the process but gain your salvation.”
Here Benjamin is mocking the truth of scripture with his statement “…we have overrated this issue of dying in the flesh.” In this, Paul says
(Gal 5:24-25) "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. {25} If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."
All of this is bunkum, Frank. If Christians have not crucified their flesh nature, then they are walking in the flesh and not in the Spirit. If they do that, then condemnation from Christ awaits them at the Judgment:
(Rom8:1) "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk NOT AFTER THE FLESH, but after the Spirit."
For the record –briefly:
1. God is bringing the Tribulation about for the restoration and Salvation of Israel. Neither of these two men addressed this issue.
2. The role of the church over the past 2011 years has been to proclaim the Gospel to “every creature.” The modern church has failed to do this preferring to believe the doctrines of man rather than God and His word.
3. The church has corrupted itself in the same way as the world systems of government have corrupted themselves.
4. For the faithful believers who are saved (Rom 10:9-10) and truly born again (John 3:1-8) after experiencing the New Birth, these will be they who have endured the spiritual cross that Jesus has for every believer (Matt 16:24) and followed Jesus wherever the Holy Spirit leads them (John 3:8). They have also suffered persecution from family members, work colleagues and friends for quoting the words of Jesus and the Gospel (Matt 10:34-36) and counted all things but “dung” forth excellency of the knowledge they have discovered about Jesus (Phil 3:8).
5. For those in Christ who have “suffered for righteousness sake” in this life (1 Peter 3:14), the COMFORT that we have is that he or she will be removed from this Earth to escape the judgments of God upon an evil and wicked generation of people who hate Jesus and Christians – Jews included (Jer30:7).
(1Thes 4:16-18) "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:{17} Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with theming the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. {18} Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words."
Alan
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